THE GREAT DEBATE NORSELAND PAPIA By Hamlet MARGARETHE MARIASDOTTIR DEALS SEVERELY WITH JIM MC MCBRIDE SW Good morning everyone. This is the first of our debates this Sunday morning. My name is Stephen Wells your Presenter. For this series when we will debate matters of serious concern over the next few months. On this morning we are proposing to discuss for the next two programs the issue of a particular country you may all have heard of called Norse land and the other country it shares an island with called Papua. We devote this program to the delicate issue of Norse andic Papian relations. and the issue of the British Norselandic Treaty. On our panel we have four distinguished guests; Jim Mc Bride- a political activist and former MP for Bradford North West (JM) Margarethe Mariasdottir-Counsellor Norselandic Embassy (MM) Lilia Moheni -London Correspondent of the Papian newspaper Papia Honoua (LM) Hugo Swire-Minister of State- Foreign and Commonwealth Office (HS) We also have a very lively Grantham audience who will contribute to this debate.. (LOUD APLAUSE) I would like to start by setting basic ground rules for this debate. The audience must listen to the contributions by the Panel without interrupting and without heckling. I will also only allow contributions of five minutes only from the audience and anyone contributing must ensure that their comments are relevant to the debate or I will cut them off. As to the issue we are discussing today is that of Norseland and Papia faraway countries in the Pacific Ocean, which share an island that is known for its tropical beauty as Pacifica. There are some people including Jim Mc Bride here and others who do not regard Papia as an independent county and that in Norseland and Papia Papians the native population are treated as second class citizens. They believe this is a scandal and that the whole world needs to seriously address this issue. Furthermore there are many in this country who object to the BNTA (British Norselandic Treaty Act) which means among other things that Norselanders in this country are not subject to British laws and allow the Warrior Nuns or the Sisters of Mercy to operate with impunity in this country. This has led to the kidnapping of the Professor of Biology at Oxford University and leading atheist Roland Davenport to be arrested and kidnapped by the WN and his incarceration and trial at the St. Agatha Convent. This has led in turn to protests from all over the world with the demand to end and repeal the BNTA and if necessary to use force by the British Security services to release Davenport from what is effectively a prison. I would like to begin our discussion by looking at the assertions made by you Jim Mc Bride that Papians are treated worse than Black Africans in South Africa under apartheid or present day Palestinians in Israel and Palestine where you are an active campaigner in the Palestine Solidarity Campaign. It has been alleged by you Jim Mc Bride and others that the role of Papians is to do menial work for their Norselandic rulers and that they are a source of cheap and exploited labour. You have described Papia as being no more than resembling a Bantustan in apartheid South Africa like the Transkei or an Indian reservations in the USA or an Aboriginal reservations in Australia. You have also opposed a recent attempt by Norseland to admit Papia to the United Nations which was defeated by the Security Council with the UK and the USA abstaining, on the grounds that Papia does not fulfil the UN criteria of an independent state, but is in fact a colony of Norseland with the Papian Government being a puppet government and that 80% of Papians live and work outside Papia.. I would also like to discuss the BNTA with you which was signed and ratified by Tony Blair in 2000. I would like you to comment on whether the BNTA should be repealed, especially in the light of the violent kidnapping of Professor Roland Davenport by the WNs as he is now undergoing trial at the St Agatha Convent on charges of blasphemy and spreading atheism. offences which in Norseland carry the death penalty. Jim Mc Bride what should the British Government and the world community do about the two scandals in your opinion which are the treatment of Papians and the arrest and trial of Professor Davenport? JM It is quite clear from everything we know that Norseland is a terrorist and semi fascist state that operates, as you have said Stephen, with impunity and license throughout the whole world not just in this country. We know that there is a so called anti-terrorist organization operated by the Norselandic regime called the Justice League which can attack any country in the world it believes is harbouring what it considers are terrorists or are carrying out what it describes as anti-Norselandic activity. The Police force the Royal Overseas Judges (ROJ) can arrest and if necessity torture and ultimately kill any British citizen it believes is guilty of anti -Norselandic activity which can be as mild as as a newspaper article criticising this country or its monarch referred to as The Queen Goddess. The time has come for the world community to stand up against this rogue state! This action should include the boycotting of al Norselandic goods, cutting of all trade links the expulsion of the WN, ROJ and the JL from this country and the release by force if necessary of Professor Davenport. We should campaign for treating this country along with Israel as an international pariah. The world community have wrongly taken action against states like Iraq and Libya that did not threaten anyone and should now take action against a real terrorist state that threatens the whole world. The BNTA must be repealed at once. It means that Norseland is the only country whose citizens in the UK are not subject to British law which is outrageous.it has meant that the WN,JL and the ROJ can effectively do as they like without any regard to British law in return for certain advantages to the British economy. Roland Davenport lives as an prisoner in a Convent controlled by the WNs and is facing trial at the Cathechision Court which is modelled on the Inquisition of 16th century Spain. We should all demand his immediate release from this illegal trial and from the Convent where he is imprisoned in the most appalling conditions. What is more we should refuse UN and world recognition to Papia which is in so many ways similar to the Transkei in apartheid South Africa. We should campaign for the freedom of Papians from organizations like the Royal Papian Judges a Police force that operates against Papians this country and in Papia itself. The RPJ has the power to arrest and execute any Papian in this country which is why all Papians live in terror of its power. I would like to inform everyone here that there is a demonstration outside the Norselandic Embassy next Saturday organized by the Papian Solidarity Oganization (PSO) of which I am Chairperson, to protest against the atrocious treatment of Papians in their own country and throughout the world and to demand that the WNs free Roland Davenplort immediately. (LOUD APPLAUSE FROM AUDIENCE) SW Thank you for that contribution Jim Mc Bride. Can we now open this debate to the audience? .I knows there are a number of people in the audience who would like to speak. The lady in red dress over there. LIR Hello this is er the first time I have er ever spoken on a program like this. I would er like to know what Papians actually think about this situation. I have um actually been on a holiday to Norseland and Papia. I am a longstanding member of the Norselandic Admiration Society. Norseland and Papia are lovely copuntries and I would love to return there. I have to say that I had several Norselandic boyfriends and had intimate sexual relations with them as a condition of joining the NAS. I really love Norselandic Men they are so attractive and are really gorgeous- They have really big- SW INTERRUPTS. Please could you make your polint.We do not want to know on this program about your personal sex life. If you carry on like this I will have to ask you to leave this program immediately! LIR I just er want to say that when I was there I did not think that the Papians were badly treated as Mr Mc Bride suggests. In fact they seemed to be the happiest people I have ever seen.We had a lovely Papian maid in our hotel when I was in Norseland . I think her name was Suki and she could not do enough for us. I really do believe the Papians are a docile and really submissive people who accept their condition happily and I think we are imposing our values on them when we call them oppressed as Mr McBride has been saying. (COMMOTION IN AUDIENCE) SW Thank you for that.as the lady has said we do want to know what Papians think about their condition so over to you Ms Moheni. LM Thank you Stephen. Well as a Papian who lives in this country and has left Papia, I do recognise the whole problem .We Papians do not want to be treated as second class citizens in Pacifica the generic name for Norseland and Papia or in the UK. As for protesting against our treatment, we do not believe in directly confronting the Norselandic regime because we know how futile and pointless it would be. As Mr Mc Bride realises we have no equivalent of the PLO or the ANC in South Africa. Instead if we are unhappy with our treatment we just leave our country which is why there are nearly 2 million Papians living abroad of which nearly 250,000 live and work in the UK. We have to accept the unfortunate face perhaps that Norselanders are technically and physically in so many ways superior to us .As for the UN- JM INTERRUPTS May I interrupt here.?# By the way if I can call you Lilia you do look really glamourous with your silky hair dressed in that sarong or sahini which shows your lovely brown legs! SW INTERRUPTS Please Jim could you refrain from making sexual advances to Ms Moheni and address the issues here. JM Sorry about that Stephen I got a little bit carried away there. Anyway we must understand as I have stated that Papia is not an independent state but a colony, that its President Maho Lahini is a puppet who takes his orders from the Norselandic Minister of Papian Relations in Soua the capital and that Papians like my lovely friend here live in fear of being arrested by the RPJ if they make the slightest comments hostile to Norseland at all and fear being deported back to Papia where the RPJ can carry out the death penalty. We know hundreds of Papians have been executed in what is supposed to be their own country for speaking out against the fascist Norselandic regime.that is why this lovely lady here is afraid to say what she really thinks. (LOUD APPLAUSE) SW Can we have another response from the audience? The lady in red again. LIR Well er I just wanted to say that unlike Mr Mc Bride I have been to Norseland on a package holiday organised by the NAS.The Tour Supervisor was a lovely buxom blonde lady. I remember her saying to the name and the other tourists that Papians are the happiest people on earth and have free access to medical care and live in subsidised housing provided for them. I want also to add that Papians are naturally very peace loving and docile people and are by nature submissive and are content with a place to sleep and enough to eat. They know they can never be equal to the Norselanders who are by nature big physically superior and very dominant especially the Norse Women as it is a society where women are the dominant sexi. I am really attracted to Norse Men they have such big- SW INTERUPTS That is enough. I have already told you do not want to hear about your personal sex life! JM INTERUPTS This really is a load of complete nonsense. The fact is that this lady went on a package tour organised by the NAS.where she would be under the control of a Tour Supervisor who would control her at all times and subject her to the official propaganda , and would only show her what the tour Supervisor would want her to be shown. It seems she has swallowed the official line hook, line and sinker. Her comments are influenced by her perverse sexual attraction to Norse Men. Of course the NAS likes to portray Papians as being happy and contented with their condition, just as the South African and Rhodesian regimes portrayed Africans as the happiest people in the world under racial segregation. I know from talking to Papians who have secretly described in detail what actual Hell they live in their own country or colony I should say, which is no more than an Aboriginal reservation. (LOUD APPLAUSE) SW I would like to move our discussion forward by bringing in a representative from the Norselandic Embassy who had been yearning to speak Ms Marysdaughtyer. MM My name Stephen is Margarethe Mariasdottir.It's pronounced MARIAHSHDOTTEER. SW Sorry about that .I really can't pronounce it. Do you mind if I just call you Madame Margarethe? MM I will permit you to call me Madame Margarethe as you are obviously incapable of pronouncing my surname. You will of course address me with the respect and reverence I deserve. SW Thank you Madame Margarethe. May I ask you as a representative of the Norselandic Government what you think of the discussion so far? MM Well as you can see I am absolutely seething with rage at the nonsense I have heard particularly from that demagogue James Mc Bride. He has once again demonstrated his complete ignorance of My Nation and of Papia too. I am so furious with him that I believe he would benefit from, undergoing a retreat with the Sisters of Mercy at the St. Agatha Convent. He would learn respect for my nation as well as how we worship The Queen Goddess and the State religion of the Royal Christianaist Church. I will happily arrange for the SMs or the Warrior Nuns as he calls them, to visit him at his home where the Royal Overseas Judges know exactly where he lives and have a detailed file on him and all his subversive activities. If he continues insulting My Nation then I am quite prepared to become physical with him myself. Perhaps he would benefit from learning about the NAS that the lady in the audience has told you about and which has over 3 million members worldwide the fastest growing organisation in the world, most of whom are women desperate to have a relationship with a Norse Man and to go on a package holiday of Norseland. (COMMOTION IN AUDIENCE) JM Don't think you can threated me you harridan! There is no way I will go to your so called Convent and there is no way your so called Nuns can force me to do anything. As for the NAS I would not join it if you paid my subscription! MM If you want trouble Mc Bride I will give you trouble! As I have said I know from our database at the ROJ Headquarters every single detail of your life you rabble rouser! I must remind you that I am a very big tall lady and that my boots have 6" heels ready to rip into your testicles! SW I must remind both of you that physical violence is not tolerated on this program Madame Margarethe and Jim Mc Bride. That is all we have time for and we will continue our discussion with a further investigation of the treatment of Papia and the kidnapping of Professor Davenport. We look forward to seeing the same panel and the audience next Sunday at 9 AM (LOUD CLAPPING AND COMMOTION FROM AUDIENCE) Any comments to Norselandic@hotmail.com